ONLY VENTURED INTO THE CANBUS SIDE OF THINGS A FEW MONTHS AGO AND WILL NOT BE GOING BACK TO RUNNING LOADS OF CABLE UP AND AROUND THE FRAME, JUST USE THIS FOR A SINGLE 4 WIRE CABLE TO GO UP AND OVER, LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN CABLE CHAINS AND A LOT LESS STRESSFUL ON THE MOVEMENT THAN TRYING TO PULL LOADS OF CABLES EVERYWHERE